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Comentario de: Michael Gallagher [Visitor] · http://michaelgallagher.wordpress.com
Wonderful structure and I love the fact you have eliminated the walled garden approach (too much time to administer, not enough spontaneous thinking and creativity).

I love the graphic showing the flow of information; I think all teachers should be focusing on this type of visualization. How it flows depends on what you want to do; with the graphic, a teacher can just plug in what tools (Twitter, PBWorks, blog, etc.) that they want to use.

Really well done!
09/30/09 @ 09:06
Comentario de: Sylvia Currie [Visitor] · http://blog.webbedfeat.com
Wow, this detailed explanation and diagram are just excellent! I'm wondering... to avoid the issues associated with using email for communication related to the course would it make sense to use a forum tool? Moodle could work for that -- has RSS so you could include it with other feeds to bring everything together. Or Google Groups, but then you always face the problem with participants including original messages with replies. (BTW, I don't see Moodle as a walled garden; you can make it as open as you want.)
09/30/09 @ 12:24
Comentario de: Gina Bennett [Visitor]
Hola, Diego! I am very impressed by your open course design. This is not something they teach at Teachers' College (yet!!!) I am even more impressed by your clear dedication to openness when invited to teach for the University of La Sabana: "I accepted on one condition: It would have to be open". There will be many of us watching with you to see how it goes with the course delivery.
09/30/09 @ 14:16
Comentario de: Diego Leal [Member]
@Michael: Thank you! I have to confess I'm not that sure about the time required to track the info in this setup. I have the feeling that it takes more time than in, say, Moodle, because you have a lot of things going on in different places. In that sense, I guess for many people a centralized system can be more comfortable. That said, I'd like this approach better because it allows students to keep control over their data in the long run.

I was having a hard time creating the diagram, and I still feel there's room for improvement there. Something good is that this is just a tool diagram. You can put in your own course any learning/teaching strategies you prefer. Thanks again!

@Sylvia: Thanks! My intention with the Google Group I mentioned was exactly that: To ease the flow of email communication. Now, I'm finding that for some people is not that easy at first to keep track of the different spaces available. I guess that can be an argument in favor of centralized systems. Then again, I'm convinced is just a question of time before participants develop those skills...

It's very fair what you say about Moodle (it's not a walled garden per se). I can see that definitely in cases like SCoPE. I guess you can say that Moodle is as closed/open as you want it to be, in the same way that you can have a public/private blog. That said, I have the feeling that a lot of Universities are using Moodle as a walled garden (I might be wrong here), and the point is that students don't get to decide about it. I guess that's why I decided to move away from Moodle.

Your comment makes me think about the importance of keeping an eye on the way the discussions evolve. It may be interesting to try and compare it with centralized forums (which I think some of the students have been part of). Thanks for stopping by!

@Gina: Thanks! I have to say I'm not sure if something like this should be taught at Teachers' College! :D It's interesting your point about openness. I guess is fair to recognize that the University could have said "No, thanks", so some credit must go to them as well.

Gee, now I'm feeling a little intimidated with many of you watching! ;D It's my first experience in this area, so I'll try and report how it goes. Like I said, I keep thinking there are a lot of elements in our context that will have an impact in the development of the course. Let's see if I get to see some of them. Thanks for your comment!
10/01/09 @ 20:17
Comentario de: Brian [Visitor] · http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian
I'll say more later, but your excellent English conveys some very interesting work!
10/09/09 @ 00:56
Comentario de: martin lindner [Visitor] · http://www.wwweblernen.de
thanks! i was just thinking about a quite similar architecture, also trying to minimize the number of apps peoplereally have to see and create a flow behind the scenes with some feed plumbing. for twitter and feed notifications i'd use a widget client (like AlertThingy, Thwirl ...), maybe posting micro-contributions via ping.fm to a group blog bundling all notifications in one web place, like a complex dashboard (Wordpress P2)?
10/09/09 @ 07:10
Comentario de: Alan Levine [Visitor] · http://cogdogblog.com/
I have some nice things to say here, Diego, but your blog tells me I am writing spam.
10/09/09 @ 09:55
Comentario de: Alan Levine [Visitor] · http://cogdogblog.com/
Thanks for your follow up Diego by email- hopefully my "bad word" is gone ;-)

This is very impressive, Diego, and thanks for openly sharing it.

I'm only thinking about your question on analyzing the activity- there is the low level of finding metrics of numbers/timing of posts/activity-- quite possible to do some Tony Hirst like magic of having a Google Spreadsheet being able to check the feeds for activity, and then it can generate charts, graphs etc).

But I also think of looking to a more higher level analysis, which depends if you are planning to try and manage the flow yourself, or perhaps find some way the class can do some peer evaluation.

For tools, one approach might be using your Google reader to subscribe to the class blogs, and either use the Share/or Star features to mark "highlighted" posts by students, sort of signifying which work is exemplary; and perhaps students can then use those as guides to go comment/review, etc.

Or perhaps for a peer approach, maybe come up with a delicious tag you and the students can do to "rate" the work of others, like each week they have to use a "ELRN09best" tag or maybe they rate the top 3 posts per week with a tag like "ELRN09best1" "ELRN09best2" "ELRN09best3" all of which can be sent back with RSS back into the mix.

Just some quick ideas, but what a great start for you!
10/10/09 @ 13:40
Comentario de: Chris Lott [Visitor] · http://chrislott.org/
Hi Diego! This is pretty impressive. I will chime-in with Alan that Google Reader and its sharing capability might be a good way to try to keep up with the flow *and* highlight/note exemplary work.

I would almost require a shared label/tag from the beginning so that the users-- even with new blogs-- have the ability right from the start to use their blog for other purposes and control what gets carried on directly to the rest of the class ecosystem.

With the Diigo group available, the Google Group seems redundant, unless the purpose is to take advantage of the Google Groups capability to function as both a web group and an email list...
10/14/09 @ 15:10

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